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It'll take him me some time before he starts +to need to customise the system. + +><i> But, it IS convenient for most users to have at least Firefox by default, and +</I>><i> this and that.. have to put the limit somewhere.  Maybe the user should +</I>><i> choose office suite afterwards, email program, another browser, and be +</I>><i> presented simple methods to select CD burnig, music player, video editing, +</I>><i> gaming etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But, that raises next question: should Mageia propose a short list of programs +</I>><i> we propose, and how should thoose be chosen?  Then maybe user thinks, oh is +</I>><i> there so few program and not this progam X that I like, although Mageia do +</I>><i> have it, but he need to use the full installer to see them... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Need to be crafted so it without clutter give noobs a clear wiew, but at the +</I>><i> same time encourages and makes possible to use the whole repos when he knows +</I>><i> what he is after. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe just simply add a "proposed programs" section to drakrpm, and make it +</I>><i> open it by default, and make drakrpm start upon desktop boot until user cliks +</I>><i> a box to have it not to.  So the user get the best served in his face, +</I>><i> without limiting his choices, nor he need to know yet another app, and we +</I>><i> need not do much development for it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> BTW, it should configure normal repos automatically, and it should be more +</I>><i> noob friendly to add, with exlanations, and a button from drakrpm dialog. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, but I see "proposed" == rpm suggests; I don't see a new user +being able to make such decisions before he familiarises himself with +the system, only then can he start uninstalling what he thinks he +doesn't need. + +Bug reports / suggestions to change default apps were usually +considered carefully and default apps do change if that bug report / +suggestion is reasonable.... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002557.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002564.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2563">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2563">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2563">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2563">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |