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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Wed Oct 20 15:59:11 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 20 octobre 2010 &#224; 15:06 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2010/10/20 Frederic Janssens &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fjanss at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I think that should be reflected in this document by avoiding to suggest
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that one must be in the one or the other category. We should emphasise that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there is a continuum of involvement, not a jump into another status.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO it is reflecting the 2 groups very well. The second part does not
+</I>&gt;<i> say that users are not involved, quite the contrary. It says that
+</I>&gt;<i> users can add value to the project through their support. This is
+</I>&gt;<i> exactyl what I've been doing for mandriva and will do for Mageia. I do
+</I>&gt;<i> not see me as a contributor who improves the distribution because I've
+</I>&gt;<i> never added one line of code to any part of the distribution and most
+</I>&gt;<i> likely I will not do it for Mageia because I do not have the necessary
+</I>&gt;<i> knowledge/skills. I am a user who adds value to the project by
+</I>&gt;<i> supporting other users with answers, documentation, translation,
+</I>&gt;<i> communication, etc.
+</I>
+Well, this is a form of contribution, yes.
+So you are a contributor, because you contribute.
+
+In the past and historically, the group of people who participated in
+cooker externally to mandrakesoft/mandriva were called &quot;contributers&quot;,
+derived likely from the fact we were sending packages in contribs.
+
+Then, the bug triaging was opened to people, the translation too ( in
+fact, it was before ), but the name contributers became synonym with
+packagers ( and also coder ). And cooker users became the name of people
+who were working with test, discussions, etc, on cooker.
+
+Mail alias, and ssh/svn access were given to packagers, translators ( ie
+&quot;contributors&quot; ), and the other type of contribution, while not
+forbidden, didn't really grew ( ie few people contributed artwork, or
+communication, etc ).
+
+Part of the problem was due to the fact that only visible contribution
+were seen as technical, and because Mandriva didn't really opened
+contributions in some area ( even if, imho, there was no need to wait on
+mdv for this ).
+
+So now, we want to recognize all kind of contribution, which seems to me
+a fair goal, as contribution to a project is not only technical.
+
+People who contribute, whatever they contribute ( except contributing to
+my anger ), are contributors. So you are a contributor.
+
+If we use word in the way most people will expect them, things will be
+much clearer to everybody. And the way the word &quot;contributor&quot; was
+twisted in Mandriva is something we should avoid, cause it lead people
+to think the only possible way to help were technical.
+
+&gt;<i> Reading the 2 descriptions carefully reveals that both groups are
+</I>&gt;<i> defined very well. It's nowhere written that somebody can not be a
+</I>&gt;<i> member of both groups (if I could code or package I'd see me in both
+</I>&gt;<i> groups).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this is only my 2K Euros worth.
+</I>
+Wow, inflation is quite bad in Germany :)
+
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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