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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100921/000340.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100921/000340.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..434ab52e2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100921/000340.html @@ -0,0 +1,179 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Financial questions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Financial%20questions&In-Reply-To=%3C1285035703.25077.239.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000338.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000341.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Financial questions</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Financial%20questions&In-Reply-To=%3C1285035703.25077.239.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Financial questions">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Sep 21 04:21:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Financial questions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 49 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#340">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#340">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#340">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#340">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 20 septembre 2010 à 21:38 -0400, Pierre Pmithrandir a écrit : +><i> Hello +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My question is quite simple. +</I>><i> In the list of contributors, we can see a lot of former mandriva +</I>><i> employee name. +</I>><i> They were employed by mandriva(or edge it) to create a distro. +</I> +No mostly edge-it. Mandriva people are still employed. + +><i> Now, they have no job, so a lot of time, and they would like to +</I>><i> continue this adventure. I can understand it. +</I>><i> I have some questions about that : +</I>><i> - Is it legal for you, have you some right to work in the same field +</I>><i> than your previous employer ? Lot of contract have a clause to forbid +</I>><i> that. It would be a very bad news if mandriva asked some question +</I>><i> about that and stop the project. +</I> +They cannot prevent this. In order to have a non-concurrence clause in +France, it need to be + +1) limited in time +2) limited in scope +3) limited geographically +4) paid +5) and realistic + +Ie, you can tell "I give you 30% of your pay each month so you do not do +work in the firewalling domain for 1 year in paris, Lyon and +Lille" ( real clause that was offered to a friend of mine ). + +You cannot say "I give you 1 euro so you never work in computer field +for the rest of your life anywhere on the planet". + +Oh, and of course, since Edge-it disappeared, there is no one to pay +anything to forbid anything, hence no issue with such clause. + +><i> - Have you some financial plan to survive. Now you have maybe some +</I>><i> money from government, and again a lot of time, but if you find a job, +</I>><i> how many time would you take for the distro. +</I> +Well, I cannot tell the details for them, but they do have plans, yes. +And for the non ex-employee, I guess most of us have regular jobs. + +><i> - People seems to think that Mageia would never have employees, is +</I>><i> that true ? Could you imagine to create a structure and month after +</I>><i> month, hire the main contributors to prevent Mageia to be out of +</I>><i> developer soon ? +</I> +Technically, a association can have employees. Bigger one does, for +administrative task first, and various task later. Regarding the hiring +of main developers, I must remind that most of them already have a job +( ie, all of the external mandriva contributers ). + +What a french association cannot be is for profit ( except in +Alsace/Moselle, where the law is different, seek 'association loi 1910' +on the web if you speak french and if you are interested ). + +><i> - You seems to think that it will be a free distro, but do you plan +</I>><i> for some cashable services ? If a company ask your support, would you +</I>><i> refuse and ask them to go to mandriva, or do you want to create +</I>><i> something for that ? +</I> +As I said, there is various plans in the pipe, and yes, the distro will +be free. + +However, if a company ask for support, there is way that do not involve +anything , with stuff like "auto entreprenariat", or "portage +salarial" ( I do not know the details, you should consult a specialist +or do some research on the net if you wish to have more information, +this is the limit of my knowledge ) + +><i> Are you really motivated to do the same job than before, but without +</I>><i> being paid ? Are you ok to give this work for free to your previous +</I>><i> employer(it's GPL...) +</I> +Again, I cannot answer for them, bu given the fact we usually give it +for free for people that may have moral values not really aligned with +ours, I think the question is already answered since the first day we +started to do free software. + +><i> My questions are most about money, I know that is a subject that +</I>><i> people love to forget, but I'm sure that it's a very important part +</I>><i> when you want to create a budget, and I didn't get any information +</I>><i> about that. +</I> +Well, maybe because the announce was like 3 days ago ? + +><i> By the way, a forum would be very nice to prevent our mailbox from +</I>><i> quick die :-) +</I> +Well, a forum will just make zarb.org servers die ( where the website is +hosted at the moment, and where I am member of the admin team ), so do +not take this personally, but I prefer for the moment to make hotmail +suffer more than zarb.org :) + +Not to mention that a forum will require some maintenance ( moderation, +spam cleaning, upgrade of the software when needed, watching it grow ), +and there is more urgent matter like having something to discuss before +having somewhere to discuss. We didn't really anticipated the rush of +people on the ml so we are trying to manage this properly while not +sacrificing proper hygiene and sleeping habits. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000338.html">[Mageia-discuss] Financial questions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000341.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 49 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#340">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#340">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#340">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#340">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |